tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938736.post112905127564291454..comments2023-10-28T08:01:40.730-07:00Comments on Sound of a Suckout: 7 Poker Lessons I Learned in VegasScurvyDoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12475986616947247959noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938736.post-1129133940079051842005-10-12T09:19:00.000-07:002005-10-12T09:19:00.000-07:00I always play live half in the bag to force myself...I always play live half in the bag to force myself to be more socialable.<BR/><BR/>Possibly a -EV move but it also gets me over the psychological hump of raise with chips instead of a click.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069654181152145893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938736.post-1129124153917718122005-10-12T06:35:00.000-07:002005-10-12T06:35:00.000-07:00A few other learnings in live, casino cash games (...A few other learnings in live, casino cash games (mostly learned at Bellagio, but have played many rooms around the US):<BR/><BR/>#8: For limit, you should play 1.5-3.0x your normal game to play with similar types of players.<BR/><BR/>#9: Where you play and the stakes are important. As there are now an ever-increasing number of card rooms opening up in casinos and out, you're seeing a few distinctly different types of rooms: the new add-on room (like at Mandalay Bay) where the limits are fairly low and you're mainly getting tourists. The former stars (like Binion's Horseshoe) where you'll find the crotchety old-timers. The boats, where you'll find the local collection of grinders and TV-watchers. The second-tier studs (like Casino Arizona) where you'll find a large collection of everything you want in players and games. And the cream of the crop (from my experience): #3--Borgata, #2--Foxwoods, #1--The Bellagio. At these, you'll find poker the way it was meant to be played live.<BR/><BR/>#10--In the relatively smaller rooms, I'm beginning to NLHE is a better +EV than mid-level limit. There tend to be significantly more fish that let you take their funds.<BR/><BR/>#11--When you play is almost as important as where. Thursday-Sunday provide the easiest ROI.<BR/><BR/>#12--Donkey bad beats happen live as well as online.<BR/><BR/>#13--Horrific runs live are scarier than online. First time I moved up from $4/8 to $15/30 live at the Bellagio, I had the following three hands in the first ten I was dealt: AQ beaten by AK, flopped 33 set beaten by flopped 99 set, and flopped AJ straighten taken out by a flush on the turn. Physically shaking, I thought, "Man, I'm not ready for this, it's a different game." <BR/><BR/>#14--Beware of higher-limit NLHE. I couldn't get a $4/8 table at the Bellagio early in my live play, so I sat down at the min$200 NLHE ($2/5). I lose my first $200, then get moved to the main table. To my right is this Somali with like $3,000 in chips. Every time I would raise a pot with whatever, he would re-raise $300. I eventually took down an evil guy and got even, but I was scared to death.<BR/><BR/>#15--You have to alternate your method of mucking to prevent carpal tunnel syndrome.<BR/><BR/>#16--Stacking large quantities of chips is funner than hearing Congratulations!<BR/><BR/>#17--There is nothing cooler than getting up, taking a break, and walking by a table with Gus Hansen, Jennifer Harman, Phil Ivey, David Williams, and four folks you don't know with stacks of chips whose denominations you aren't familiar with.CChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10777389833765857820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938736.post-1129096359127437262005-10-11T22:52:00.000-07:002005-10-11T22:52:00.000-07:00Great list. I'm going to join everyone else in sa...Great list. I'm going to join everyone else in saying that #6 applies for size. Forcing myself to be even slightly gregarious yields a lot more action when I have a hand.<BR/><BR/>Even weak players can perceive the people who are only playing the best 10% or so of hands, and they resent it. They only want to give action to fellow "gamblers" who are just there to "have fun."Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11367987948230866609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938736.post-1129069825963584692005-10-11T15:30:00.000-07:002005-10-11T15:30:00.000-07:00Good post.Your lessons really hit the nail on the ...Good post.Your lessons really hit the nail on the head.I've only played live a couple of times and lesson 6 was me both times.<BR/><BR/>I think I recognised it though ( 2nd time) and when I'd settled in I started stealing and making a few more moves.<BR/><BR/>Getting respect for my bets gave me confidence and helped me find my usual game.Came 7th from 40 for £5 net so hardly big stakes though.Littleacornmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18275459231168162432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938736.post-1129068127023904982005-10-11T15:02:00.000-07:002005-10-11T15:02:00.000-07:00I've spent a fair amount of time thinking about yo...I've spent a fair amount of time thinking about your Lesson #6 while playing at the local boats. The first few times I went I was too nervous to say anything more than "sorry" when I made a mistake, and I got no action. Last time I went, I played about the same percentage of hands with about the same aggressiveness, but I made a point of commiserating with people when their J6o that flopped bottom two got "sucked out" by AKs making a flush on the river.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes you don't even have to play the bad hands to get labeled "fish"... you just have to talk about them.Captain Freemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03281895457011022021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938736.post-1129054552263571262005-10-11T11:15:00.000-07:002005-10-11T11:15:00.000-07:00I agree with every one of your points, particularl...I agree with every one of your points, particularly #1 (although #2 is not much of an issue anymore, although it was earlier).<BR/>I'm not sure if #6 stops being true at higher limits, but it is has been certainly true for all limits I have played up to $30/$60.dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06745833118021274985noreply@blogger.com